Author Topic: Reflections??????  (Read 3076 times)

billet323

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Reflections??????
« on: January 13, 2012, 01:59:43 pm »
January 13, 2012, 01:59:43 pm
Hello, I am trying to market interior renderings to my clients.  I am having a heck of a time (with exteriors as well) with reflections?  I can not see reflections in the model when I am tweaking the sliders.... There seems to be very small change when moving the sliders?  I would expect to see something reflecting when sliders are all the way to the right, and nothing reflecting when all the way to the left?  I slide all the 3 or 4 sliders that have the word "reflective" in them and I dont see anything happening?  I put the ball thing in the middle of the room and nothing happens?  I really dont have time to create tons of movies to see how things react once rendered.

What am I doing wrong?  Is what im asking even possible in Lumion?  I am certainly not a programer and do  not understand the first thing about it... But are reflections really this hard to implement correctly?

A video tutorial would be awesome if anyone has a moment to put one together... I am a very visual person...

billet323

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Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 02:34:30 pm »
January 13, 2012, 02:34:30 pm
Also, do you have to use multiple circle revlection balls?  Or just one?  I am confused as to how it works if you go into multiple rooms?

Thanks!

Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 02:39:39 pm »
January 13, 2012, 02:39:39 pm
Also, do you have to use multiple circle revlection balls?  Or just one?  I am confused as to how it works if you go into multiple rooms?

Hi Billet, you'll have to move the Reflection Control object manually using the Basic Animation or Advanced Animation on a per-clip basis.

Also, for the time being, you'll have to press CTRL + U to update the reflection texture manually whenever you have moved the Reflection Control object (or adjust one of the sliders in the Weather section)
« Last Edit: January 13, 2012, 02:56:04 pm by Morten »

Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 02:42:21 pm »
January 13, 2012, 02:42:21 pm
Hello, I am trying to market interior renderings to my clients.  I am having a heck of a time (with exteriors as well) with reflections?  I can not see reflections in the model when I am tweaking the sliders.... There seems to be very small change when moving the sliders?  I would expect to see something reflecting when sliders are all the way to the right, and nothing reflecting when all the way to the left?  I slide all the 3 or 4 sliders that have the word "reflective" in them and I dont see anything happening?  I put the ball thing in the middle of the room and nothing happens?  I really dont have time to create tons of movies to see how things react once rendered.

What am I doing wrong?  Is what im asking even possible in Lumion?  I am certainly not a programer and do  not understand the first thing about it... But are reflections really this hard to implement correctly?

A video tutorial would be awesome if anyone has a moment to put one together... I am a very visual person...

This is exacly as it works! Be warned though that if you use reflection colorize or you have fresnel enabled this might decrease reflectiveness. The fresnel setting allows you to have more reflection at the edges than in the center of the model and reflection colorize setting multiplies the reflection with the base material color. If you have a dark surface the reflection might be multiplied by a dark color so you won't see it.

Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 03:04:13 pm »
January 13, 2012, 03:04:13 pm
Try uploading a rendering, explain what you are trying to achieve, and let us know which material type(s) you are using to achieve this effect.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2012, 03:19:49 pm by Morten »

billet323

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Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 06:45:19 pm »
January 13, 2012, 06:45:19 pm
AHHHH HAAAAA!  As I was looking for "Fresnel Falloff" I discovered there are a whole set of reflective options I was missing!  Im good to go now!  Also, do we have the ability to make a mirror?

Thanks for all your help!

Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 07:39:34 pm »
January 13, 2012, 07:39:34 pm
No, planar reflections for mirrors are not (yet) possible (read Remko's reply to Gilson's "Mirror Function" thread):
http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2868.msg17982#msg17982

RAD

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Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 10:06:05 pm »
January 13, 2012, 10:06:05 pm
With the mirror - ya gotta fake it till they make it.

I found this video about faking it until you make it.
Not sure it really applies.  I'm trying to collect enough textures to make this video.
Or maybe use this music in an animation (about a mirror - jk)  ;)
Wishlist item: dancing animated singer.
OFFICIAL VIDEO Lolene - "Rich (Fake It Til You Make It)" HD
« Last Edit: January 13, 2012, 10:09:08 pm by CRhoades »

jimbobaggins

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Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2012, 07:00:54 pm »
January 15, 2012, 07:00:54 pm
I cannot but agree with billet 323 a tute on using or creating reflections would be excellent.

I have a glass window box with four walls onto a interior terrarium it has an opening at the top like a skylight However no matter what i do the glass both internal and external of this box only reflects the sky and ground from the skybox? which is outside the building behind the walls?

I dont know what is meant by moving the reflection control object as I can only set a custom reflection point by clicking and see no ball. Nor can I see the additional reflection controls unless you are talking just about the glass reflective controls.

Pressing control + U after selecting this point only adds a foggy blue band around the bottom of the box.  And while this removes the sky and ground for stills it does not do so for animations?

Nor do I understand what is meant by the basic or advanced  animation setting as advanced only shows me layers ?

So yes a Tute for sure

Thanks

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One more reason for a tute (confusion) After reading this post I assumed the reflection control had to be used for each clip. hahaha me!
I deleted it fom the clips and added it only to the main movie and set it to show reflections of all objects and from camera position, now it works as i expected it to witout having to set any points or anything.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 07:22:27 pm by jimbobaggins »

Re: Reflections??????
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2012, 10:58:18 pm »
January 15, 2012, 10:58:18 pm
I dont know what is meant by moving the reflection control object as I can only set a custom reflection point by clicking and see no ball. Nor can I see the additional reflection controls unless you are talking just about the glass reflective controls.


Nor do I understand what is meant by the basic or advanced  animation setting as advanced only shows me layers ?[edit]

One more reason for a tute (confusion) After reading this post I assumed the reflection control had to be used for each clip. hahaha me!
I deleted it fom the clips and added it only to the main movie and set it to show reflections of all objects and from camera position, now it works as i expected it to witout having to set any points or anything.

Sounds like you are using the Free version 1.  So reflection control is different now in v2 which billet323 is referring to.

re advanced animation, that's in the Ultimate edition or as a plug-in for version 2 so you won't see anything other than the basic animation tool (object moving) for video or video clips.

There is other discussions and some examples showing how to use the Relfection Control for v1, please search the forum if you still need to.

The default reflection works fine for a lot of cases, the Reflection Control (per clip) is to fine tune for local reflections etc so if it's not needed then its not needed to be added to a clip.