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Jfhdgfyh

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First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« on: July 03, 2012, 07:56:25 am »
July 03, 2012, 07:56:25 am
Hello Amigos,!

I wanted to shere with you my first Lumion Animation made with free Lumion. We are testing. Please all critics and observations are wellcome.
Question:
What are the proces you advice to upload to Youyube a HD animation?, it seems we are loosing quiality at Premiere...

<a href="http://youtu.be/nn52JioLjno" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://youtu.be/nn52JioLjno</a>


Thank you!

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 09:27:27 am »
July 03, 2012, 09:27:27 am
Pablo, excelente diseño. Pedazo de web amigo. Muy bien. Saludos. Nicolás

Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 10:17:30 am »
July 03, 2012, 10:17:30 am
That's a very nice model and smooth (slowish) camera work.

Just curious though about the (lack of) 'Built With Lumion Free' logo on the movie, given you said you were using the Free version?

Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 11:17:10 am »
July 03, 2012, 11:17:10 am
Very nice!

Jfhdgfyh

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Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 04:56:58 pm »
July 03, 2012, 04:56:58 pm
Pablo, excelente diseño. Pedazo de web amigo. Muy bien. Saludos. Nicolás

Gracias Nicolas, pero si comparas los videos subidos por otras personas, no logre buena calidad se ve todo pixeleado.
Alguna dugerencia??
Saludos y gracias!

Jfhdgfyh

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Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 05:02:05 pm »
July 03, 2012, 05:02:05 pm
That's a very nice model and smooth (slowish) camera work.

Just curious though about the (lack of) 'Built With Lumion Free' logo on the movie, given you said you were using the Free version?

Peter, we have to re-scale the frame in an editing movie software... Maybe that is why the image looks pixelated. Thats how we got rid of the logo. But at the end we put credit of this wonderful software, we wanted to be more elegant.

Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2012, 05:16:02 pm »
July 03, 2012, 05:16:02 pm
Peter, we have to re-scale the frame in an editing movie software... Maybe that is why the image looks pixelated. Thats how we got rid of the logo. But at the end we put credit of this wonderful software, we wanted to be more elegant.

Hi Pablo, thank you for your honesty but it seems that you have misunderstood the rules for Lumion FREE.

It is a requirement that the Lumion FREE logo is displayed in the top left corner of the rendered Lumion movie.

The fact that Lumion FREE is quite powerful erodes the commercial licenses that our customers are paying for, and the Lumion FREE logo is an important way to distinguish a commercial license from a non-commercial one. If we didn't have the logo requirement, we would be forced to reduce the feature set in Lumion FREE even further, since unscrupulous Lumion FREE users otherwise could compete with customers who had commercial licenses.

I hope you understand.

http://lumion3d.com/free/
"Please note that Lumion® Free is not for commercial use or any other potential source of income. It is only for internal showcases, for learning Lumion and for importing your 3D models so that you know that the pipeline works."

Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2012, 05:22:59 pm »
July 03, 2012, 05:22:59 pm
P.S. We have now clarified this rule on the Lumion FREE page:

"The watermark/Lumion® logo must be displayed on all renderings and videos made with Lumion® FREE. If you crop renderings/videos to get rid of the watermark/Lumion® logo we may revoke your license."

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 08:21:16 pm »
July 03, 2012, 08:21:16 pm
Pablo, I think you need to upload the original output, without any crop.  :)
Maybe this will be some of the most perfect videos make with the free license.  ;)
I wish all who download the free version and test it want take the time and enthusiasm you've put into this house. But the truth is that not the case, and 9 out of 10 videos uploaded to the Free version, demerit much Lumion capacity.

Jfhdgfyh

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Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2012, 04:47:49 am »
July 04, 2012, 04:47:49 am
P.S. We have now clarified this rule on the Lumion FREE page:

"The watermark/Lumion® logo must be displayed on all renderings and videos made with Lumion® FREE. If you crop renderings/videos to get rid of the watermark/Lumion® logo we may revoke your license."

Ok Morten, i do understand now. Honestly we thougth that if we put the credits at the end it will be allrigth, but since you are not agree, i uderstand. Ill speak with my boss and must likely we will take it out. This was a test, and I dont think my boss will allow me to re-do it again. It was too much time involved. With Autodesk products we had done always the same. "put the credit at the end". But i do understand Lumion standars are not the same now.
I apologize.

Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 am »
July 04, 2012, 10:47:21 am
No problem, thanks for your understanding.

We already moved the watermark/Lumion logo in 2.5 so that people would have a smaller usable area after cropping videos, but if other Lumion FREE users (not you obviously :)) continue to abuse the rules, we may have to add a full screen watermark and/or add other restrictions.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the best way to ensure that we don't have to add more restrictions to Lumion FREE is to respect the rules.

Jfhdgfyh

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Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2012, 05:12:21 am »
July 05, 2012, 05:12:21 am
No problem, thanks for your understanding.

We already moved the watermark/Lumion logo in 2.5 so that people would have a smaller usable area after cropping videos, but if other Lumion FREE users (not you obviously :)) continue to abuse the rules, we may have to add a full screen watermark and/or add other restrictions.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the best way to ensure that we don't have to add more restrictions to Lumion FREE is to respect the rules.


Lumion team and Staff,

I have talk to my boss and we are taking out the video.
We have also decide not to support and ever promote Lumion in any way.

I think is completaly out of place to say that "we are abusing Lumion Rules" since we have always insert corespondant credit. My boss was pretty upset by your atitude. Also to tell you that he has suported Revit and other Autodesk products in order to introduce them at the various Universities he teach.

You have to understand that if you ever want to introduce Lumion to non first world Country, you will have to have a more colaborative atitude. My boss was pariculate upset by your pricing. We do have a very comprenhensive colaboration with Autodesk.nthir pricing are diferent at various Countries...
We are from Mexico, and we do not charge in euros our projects.

We are very disaponted by the way you have turn this acusing us of "abusing".
Also ane for your information: we DID NOT USE LUMION to sell any project. Casa CorManca project was already built at 80% constructed, when i wanted to introduce LUMION to my boss, but now i regret it...

Be sure we wont support the use of this software.

Best Regards,
Pabloazulito from PAUL CREMOUX studio   www.paulcremoux.com

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 09:22:42 am »
July 05, 2012, 09:22:42 am
Que pena que te lo hayas tomado tan mal.
Las tuyas hubieran sido buenas contribuciones al programa.
Pero así y todo creo que pierdes mucho más tú que Lumion.
Saludos y Felicidad. Nicolás

Too bad you´ve taken it so bad.
Yours would have been good contributions to the program.
But even so I think you lose much more than Lumion.
Greetings and Happiness. Nicolas

SEVERINO

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Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2012, 09:53:50 am »
July 05, 2012, 09:53:50 am
Que pena que te lo hayas tomado tan mal.
Las tuyas hubieran sido buenas contribuciones al programa.
Pero así y todo creo que pierdes mucho más tú que Lumion.
Saludos y Felicidad. Nicolás

Too bad you´ve taken it so bad.
Yours would have been good contributions to the program.
But even so I think you lose much more than Lumion.
Greetings and Happiness. Nicolas

Desde que estoy en este foro y en todas las intervenciones que he tenido,
(muchas menos de las que hubiera deseado), el equipo Lumion siempre, repito siempre ha sido muy respetuoso con toda la gente. Si de algo estoy orgulloso, a parte del programa que es fantastico, es de este foro y su equipo.

En este caso, el equipo Lumion, defiende tanto los intereses de su empresa, como los intereses de los usuarios del programa.

Nico, mi opinion con respecto la respuesta que han dado estos señores, refleja su nivel ético, rozando incluso la coacción. Por tanto, creo que ellos pierden una gran herramienta, como es Lumion y nosotros ganamos (Lumion y los usuarios) con la pérdida de este tipo de gente.

Saludos, Severino

Since I am in this forum and all the speeches I've had,
(much less than they had hoped), the team Lumion always, repeat always been very respectful of all people. If anything I am proud to part of the program is fantastic, is of this forum and his team.

In this case, the team Lumion, defends both the interests of your company, as the interests of users of the program.

Nico, my opinion about the response you have given these men, reflects its ethical level, touching even coercion. So I think they lose a great tool, as Lumion and we won (Lumion and users) with the loss of such people.

Greetings, Severino

Re: First Lumion Animation How to HD?
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2012, 10:57:50 am »
July 05, 2012, 10:57:50 am
I think is completaly out of place to say that "we are abusing Lumion Rules" since we have always insert corespondant credit.

Hi Pablo, if you read my post again I actually said: "...if other Lumion FREE users (not you obviously :)) continue to abuse the rules...".

In addition, I thanked you for being one of the few honest Lumion FREE users but maybe this was lost in translation.

Let me explain why we try to enforce the watermark rule:
In the past our paying customers have complained over the fact that Lumion FREE provides users like you with a lot of features and too few restrictions. For that reason, we have to at least make people aware of the rules, and one of those rules is to display the Lumion FREE logo (which is similar to how it works in certain other 3D programs).

Also, our company is very small (there's just 9 of us) so we have to try and protect the products by listening to our customers while at the same time making it possible for people like you to evaluate Lumion before buying it. It's a fine line, and it's perfectly possible that there is a better solution to this problem than what is currently implemented/enforced.

If you have any good ideas, we are very much willing to listen to you. Just bear in mind that the customers who pay for the development of Lumion always will be our first priority.

My boss was pretty upset by your atitude. Also to tell you that he has suported Revit and other Autodesk products in order to introduce them at the various Universities he teach.

I don't know if you are aware of this but we actually offer educational versions of Lumion and Lumion Pro. These versions mirror the feature set in Lumion and Lumion PRO but have got more discreet watermarks:
http://lumion3d.com/educational-specifications/

Lumion EDUCATIONAL is free for educational institutions and the watermark is less noticeable in this version. Its feature set is the same as in Lumion.

Lumion EDUCATIONAL PRO which costs €299 (ex VAT) only has a tiny line of text in the top left corner that says that it's not for commercial use. Its feature set is identical to Lumion PRO.

You have to understand that if you ever want to introduce Lumion to non first world Country, you will have to have a more colaborative atitude. My boss was pariculate upset by your pricing. We do have a very comprenhensive colaboration with Autodesk.nthir pricing are diferent at various Countries...

I agree that regional pricing would make Lumion more affordable in many non-first world countries, and my bosses have discussed this option in the past, but I don't know if this will materialise at some point.

Also ane for your information: we DID NOT USE LUMION to sell any project. Casa CorManca project was already built at 80% constructed, when i wanted to introduce LUMION to my boss, but now i regret it...

Don't worry, I know it's not a commercial project. But you mentioned that this was just a test video, and what I don't understand is that if it's just a test for evaluating/showcasing Lumion for your boss, why can't you display the watermark/Lumion logo?