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artmusicstudio.de

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camera view - total recall ???
« on: June 22, 2012, 01:36:12 pm »
June 22, 2012, 01:36:12 pm
hello,


is it somehow possible to save a bank of camera views (0-9) to an external file and reload?
if not, please put it on a wish-list

maybe you even could implement a menue with unlimeted number of total-recall-views / and saveble? that would be a dream.....


and

could you implement a function for saving the camera views in the editor with ALL parameters (sun, clouds, light etc. / the whole scene = total recall)

this would really be usefull to preserve complex settings per picture, without saving a project for every shot.

thank you. regards stan

Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2012, 01:43:22 pm »
June 22, 2012, 01:43:22 pm
Thanks for your suggestions, Stan.

Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2012, 04:40:41 pm »
June 22, 2012, 04:40:41 pm
could you implement a function for saving the camera views in the editor with ALL parameters (sun, clouds, light etc. / the whole scene = total recall)

That could be very useful!

engchen85

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Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 01:31:46 pm »
July 13, 2012, 01:31:46 pm
yup yup....wan this badly~!!!hahaha...

artmusicstudio.de

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Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2012, 08:51:54 pm »
July 14, 2012, 08:51:54 pm
yup yup....wan this badly~!!!hahaha...

hi, yes, i just installed 2.5 and it is still not possible.

heaven, lumion is not a game, it's a graphic software for professionals
making PICTURES, but not able to save the parameters of those...funny, i have to say... ( 1 - 0 only save the vectors...).

welcome in 2012, lumion (sorry for the sarcasm, guys, but i spend more time with writing down parameters of goog parameter-sets then drawing / btw.: is it possible to read coordinates of the camera- vector somewhere? 10 pictures simply are NOT ENOUGH !!!!! for a 3 x 4 km area).

regards stan
regards stan


Frank

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Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2012, 09:01:50 pm »
July 14, 2012, 09:01:50 pm
Perhaps it would be a solution in further versions making the movie-effects available in photo mode.

A solution with the software as it is would be:
Create a clip in movie mode and adjust the scene with movie-effects.
Then switch to photo-mode and render the pic. As you will see, the movie-effects will be rendered.
Additionally you are able to save as much camera-views as you want.

Its something like bug-using in a game, but it works.
Regards,
Frank

artmusicstudio.de

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Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2012, 02:16:56 am »
July 15, 2012, 02:16:56 am
hi frank,
thanx for the ideas, i actually tried this in 2.2, but it was unpleasant to set all effects again and again for each picture (=movie) and not all effects i wanted to use are available in the movie section (especially the cloud-variations, which are essential).

BUT:
with 2.5 now we have the effect-copy function, ,which is really a joy.

i can now prepare different movie-setups like defaults, fix the view, copy it to a movie frame 1 and aply the effect-settings from any default i have or create new once.

besides the missing effects of the pic-section this really works.

since it is not possible to copy a view from any other frame then the first one we need to define one movie per view. but this is acceptable.
on the other hand with this we can define a second frame of the same picture, with a small change of the vie pint and generte a set of pictures by exporting the movie to pictures.
chosing the best view then will be. fun.

and there is still a bug (maybe only on videos made in 2.2, have to check this out) where the last frame of a video is shown as first frame in the next one (it still happens in 2.5 in a project from 2.2).

so for the lumion-wishlist :

-make all effects from the edit-section available in the movie-section
-implement a repair-function for the frame bug
-implement variable designs for the menues - with a simple listing more effect fit to one page
-expand the copy- function to COPY ALL / COPY SELECTED (keyframed)
-enable a sorting for inserted effects / for ex up and down arrows for each effect
-insert a function for picture export in the movie section : export 1 picture per keyframe
-a GO TO - function for a video ( the slider is uncomfortabel with 50 or more vids). a simple list would be a good alternative incl. selection by key-pad (simply typing the number of the video).

that's it so far
regards stan

Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 04:40:38 am »
July 15, 2012, 04:40:38 am
is it somehow possible to save a bank of camera views (0-9) to an external file and reload?
if not, please put it on a wish-list

Just wondering about this, as camera views are relative to the scene and object/building that is specific to the scene, then how would saving out camera views be of any real use?

If one had a single building with the same layout of rooms for example, and all buildings for other scenes were inserted at the exact same position (say 0,0) then the camera views saved would work, but in any other situation, is it not going to be quicker just to take the photo as it relates to the current scene?

Not forgetting of course that it is possible to use a scene as a template for another project, and just remove/update-replace the old building with a new one, and the camera and all movie clips will be available to the new scene.  ;)

artmusicstudio.de

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Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 12:40:58 pm »
July 15, 2012, 12:40:58 pm
hi peterm,
well,  maybe i did not describe the advantage i see in saving settings exactly. let us try.

so, i work on a wide ranged area of about 12 km2 with lots of buildings and landscape areas.

for this now you can save only 10 views . in these views (picture section, not video) only the camera vector is saved, not the parameters like sun and clouds etc, which , for my opinion are very important for the composition of a view.
the idea of the programmers was probably to have 10 views and to be able to change the surround parrameters for all of them at once and to generate pictures, make new settings and save again.
that is one possible philosophy.

for my work i need:
more saved pictures in the project OR reloadable banks of those 10 pictures as total recall to save the mood , not only the view, the best would be a unlimited list of views, with parameters listed linewise to be able to copy them from one view to another.
total recall means saved definable light, clouds etc. per picture, since i adjust shadows for every picture to get the best result. do you really want to spend time for rearranging the light , when you change the architecture and have to recreate an older view exactly (light, sun fog etc) ?
and i want to recall the picture in the whole within the project, after reloading for example a new version of one skyscraper.

summary:
i think a total recall of a view in such a phantastic software is a MUST .
as discibed before, we have a workaround in the video-section, but not all parameters available. anyway, it's fantastic.

could i explain my point of view a bit?
regards stan

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 12:10:01 am »
July 16, 2012, 12:10:01 am
Thanks Stan, understand more now, like arch, it's in the detail, so the more the detail of the idea, the more the understanding. 

Extending the camera saves to include all scene settings would indeed enhance the photo feature to make it much more flexible.  Great ideas.


Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2012, 11:55:30 am »
July 16, 2012, 11:55:30 am
Thanks for clarifying what you meant, Stan.

artmusicstudio.de

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Re: camera view - total recall ???
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2012, 04:35:43 pm »
July 16, 2012, 04:35:43 pm
hi morten, you're welcome,
it's a pleasure to have  programmers really interested in user's ideas.
it would be nice to see, that some of them, if somehow possible, are going to be implemented in the future. of course, lots of users have lots of wishes, but surely some overalll standards can be programmed (i think, some of them in a rather simple way, since for example a total recall is only a list of values, isn't it?)

so, let's keep on brainstorming to make lumion even better then it is - once again: i love the graphic output giving me the necessary amount of romantic feeling on top of the great 3d pictures and videos! my first clients  were really lucky about the pictures i did with lumion...
regards stan