Author Topic: blease whats is with the libary lumion to lumion pro  (Read 2699 times)

ilwedritschel

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blease whats is with the libary lumion to lumion pro
« on: June 25, 2012, 08:10:11 pm »
June 25, 2012, 08:10:11 pm
sorry thats is not right.

ich muss es leider auf deutsch schreiben, vielleicht kann es ja jemand übersetzen.

habe gerade die neue symboldatenbank für lumion durchgesehen vergl. pro.

es kann einfach nicht sein, das teile der symboldatenbank die ich gekauft habe jetzt zusammengestrichen werden z.b. bäume etc.  das ist betrug und rechtlich nicht haltbar.

ich arbeite sehr gerne und gut mit lumion und habe bisher alles upgedatet von lumion basic 1 nach 2 und alle plugins einschließlich lumion premium und update bis 3.0gekauft.

meine arbeiten beinhalten alle symbole die ich auch gekauft habe und meine arbeiten müssen mir auch weiterhin zur verfügung stehen einschl. aller symbole .
mit dem kauf wurde ein beidseitiger vertrag geschlossen mit dem zu diesem zeitpunkt bestehendem umfang, eine reduzierung ist nicht vereinbart worden.

sicher würde ich auch auf die zukünftige version upgraden, doch mit dieser politik werde ich es mir sicher noch einmal überlegen.

ich bin nun wirklich enttäuscht, hatte sehr auf dieses program gesetzt, aber erst kaufen und dann mehr als die hälfte wieder zurück zu geben ohne einen ausgleich, das geht nicht.

schade das der erfolg dem lumion team masslos über der kopf gewachsen ist.
und andere stehen schon in den startlöchern mit mindest dem gleichen umfang und besser, ist nur eine sache der zeit. ein wechsel einen leichtigkeit, ist nicht das erste mal nach 30 jahren software erfahrung. von autocad zu vectorcad oder zu spirit nach 3d-studio, sketchup, lightscape oder finalrender, rip-ava, cosoba und und  alles schon dagewesen gekauft und eingesetzt ud oft die gleichen erfahrungen gemacht und gewechselt und es gibt immer wieder bessere, geht mir auch so leider gibts noch bessere mit noch größeren und noch teuren projekten. versuch aber immer on top zu schwimmen mit kompetenten leuten neues zu entwickeln.

was ist mit all den versprechungen die gemacht wurden? und von uns bezahlt wurden.

es schneit und regnet immer noch im gebäude!!!!!
und wie kann man das schnittmodul ausschalten wenn es mal eingebracht wurde??? nun immer löschen und wieder neu setzen ist keine lösung!!!
die unterwasseransicht ist wohl der letzte schrei für alle architekten. wird zeit das die klimaveränderung fortschreitet um es auch zu nutzen. wichtiger wäre da wohl die orthogonalen projektionen, wo sind sie geblieben?

und der preis für die pro version einfach lächerlich, hier gehts nun aber ums prinzip und da werd ich leider sehr zornig.

mfg.

ps.

new projekt palzzo prozi martino 50 meter long and 9 meters high on the island of seychells takamaka beach for only 3 million dollar

new projekt selfcatering appartments

im bau befindliches projekt für nur 1 million

mein neues benchtable gtx 680 ivy board in my office on seychells

keine frage des geldes nur die bedingungen müssen stimmen, kann auch keinem bauherrn nach der fertigstellung und vollständigen bezahlung die hälfte abreisen lassen weil das wetter gerade so schön ist.

die letzten bilder sind mit einem plugin für sketchup gemacht render[in] kostet 80 dollar bild in 10 minuten für das neue hausboot.

das allerletze mit lumion 2.5 its allway raining in the house



Re: blease whats is with the libary lumion to lumion pro
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 08:28:16 pm »
June 25, 2012, 08:28:16 pm
Hi,

Apologies, I don't speak German, but I understand you are not satisfied and that it is about the content in 2.2 and later. Could you please drop a mail at corine [at] act-3d.com, she speaks German and I am pretty sure we can help you out.

Arthur

RAD

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Re: blease whats is with the libary lumion to lumion pro
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 10:14:03 pm »
June 25, 2012, 10:14:03 pm
I google translated it.

What I think he is asking for clarity is about, he already has all the trees as a plug-in for 2.0.
If he upgrades to 2.5 he will lose the tree plug-in he has in 2.0 for 2.5, thus lose the trees he already has in order to move forward to use 2.5 with it's improved functionality but with less "entourage".....but must now upgrade to Pro to get the trees back .... as it appears from the chart.  He can still use the trees while in 2.0 but when he uses 2.5 he won't have access to them.

yeah? 



Re: blease whats is with the libary lumion to lumion pro
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 11:43:50 am »
June 26, 2012, 11:43:50 am
Hi ilwedritschel, thanks for your feedback (Luckily I worked/lived in Germany for a few years, so my rusty German came in handy :)).

Fortunately, you already have 4 plug-ins for Lumion Basic 2, so it should be straightforward to sort out your license question and upgrade to 2.5 (just follow Arthur's instructions above).

es schneit und regnet immer noch im gebäude!!!!!

Snow and rain are simple 2D effects and they don't "know" if an area is inside or outside a building. I don't expect this to change any time soon (as it's hard if not impossible to fix this), so you'll have to edit your videos to hide this fact. The only potential workaround I can think of is to make it possible to adjust the distance from the camera where the rain starts, so that you at least can make it appear to rain outdoors only. You're welcome to suggest this in the Wish List section.

und wie kann man das schnittmodul ausschalten wenn es mal eingebracht wurde??? nun immer löschen und wieder neu setzen ist keine lösung!!!

You're right, it is currently not possible to turn Movie effects on/off (although it has obviously already been suggested a number of times). In 2.5 you can copy/paste effects on a per-clip basis, so what you could do is to make a copy of your effects, and then delete the ones you don't want. When you're done testing, paste the effects back into the clip. I know that this isn't exactly what you want, but it might make things a little easier.

die unterwasseransicht ist wohl der letzte schrei für alle architekten.

The Underwater movie effect in 2.5 is a quick fix that Ferry implemented in order to make it possible to show an underwater view below user-imported models that use the Water material.

wichtiger wäre da wohl die orthogonalen projektionen, wo sind sie geblieben?

The developers are keenly aware of the fact that it isn't possible to create proper axonometric views + elevations and cross sections in Lumion.

Ferry actually carried out tests in April but was discouraged by the initial results.

Anything that relies on "projection" will not function correctly if you try to use an orthogonal camera, so the shadows and the ocean were no longer visible. There were other problems too, for example fog not working anymore, but I don't remember all of the details.

Let me know if you have any other questions, and feel free to contact us via email as well.

ilwedritschel

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Re: blease whats is with the libary lumion to lumion pro
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 08:50:40 pm »
June 26, 2012, 08:50:40 pm
Hi ilwedritschel, thanks for your feedback (Luckily I worked/lived in Germany for a few years, so my rusty German came in handy :)).

Fortunately, you already have 4 plug-ins for Lumion Basic 2, so it should be straightforward to sort out your license question and upgrade to 2.5 (just follow Arthur's instructions above).

Snow and rain are simple 2D effects and they don't "know" if an area is inside or outside a building. I don't expect this to change any time soon (as it's hard if not impossible to fix this), so you'll have to edit your videos to hide this fact. The only potential workaround I can think of is to make it possible to adjust the distance from the camera where the rain starts, so that you at least can make it appear to rain outdoors only. You're welcome to suggest this in the Wish List section.

You're right, it is currently not possible to turn Movie effects on/off (although it has obviously already been suggested a number of times). In 2.5 you can copy/paste effects on a per-clip basis, so what you could do is to make a copy of your effects, and then delete the ones you don't want. When you're done testing, paste the effects back into the clip. I know that this isn't exactly what you want, but it might make things a little easier.

The Underwater movie effect in 2.5 is a quick fix that Ferry implemented in order to make it possible to show an underwater view below user-imported models that use the Water material.

The developers are keenly aware of the fact that it isn't possible to create proper axonometric views + elevations and cross sections in Lumion.

Ferry actually carried out tests in April but was discouraged by the initial results.

Anything that relies on "projection" will not function correctly if you try to use an orthogonal camera, so the shadows and the ocean were no longer visible. There were other problems too, for example fog not working anymore, but I don't remember all of the details.

Let me know if you have any other questions, and feel free to contact us via email as well.

thanks for your comment.

i try to explane something what i think is going wrong.

1 1/2 jahr ago i was surching for a 3d-palme for sketchup, i found lumion 3d, wow i bought the basic with the tree library but not only the tree library the program is working well with my big scenes (sketchupmodels with 800MB and more ). that was my first test with the lumion free software.. i love lumion and thought the team is great the forum with your spontan comments and allway presents is super.

lumion is growing, and first time it goes to the right way.

i thought it will be a big tool for 3d-rendering and i can buy what i need (plugins), but now you offer lumion as a warehouse with 1600 parts etc. i do not need 1600 parts with balls and books and somthing like that.

you can never offer all parts i need from v+B or stark, shower and bath etc. there are 5000 to 10000 , or all street lamps etc.

what i need are tools to but parts (you can get everything from dealer in 3d) to the lumion library with some kind of changings (color, matirial etc.)

the same with trees and cars. i dont need 1000 gostcars with out driver, i need one or two where can i open the doors an puts there lights on etc. or i will made my one car from doschdesign or something like that to but this in the lumion library with animation.
the same with peoples etc.
the same with the material without name for wood only with numbers? witch kind of material? thats all not finish!

its not the best puplik to sell your program with the offer yo get 1600 part it cost only 1 or 2€ a part.
lumion 3d must be the best 3d-animation tool in the world without a big 3d-warehause.

we need tools and a place in the forum where user can share lumion 3d parts and matirials etc.

sorry for my english and iam in hurry i have to work.

and thanks for the underwater tool, i feel like a red snaper.

ps. 3d-animation are only 5% of my works i have to manage 20 indian with a translator in hindy.


Re: blease whats is with the libary lumion to lumion pro
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2012, 03:00:49 pm »
June 27, 2012, 03:00:49 pm
Thanks again for clarifying what you meant, i.e. that you want us to focus 100% on improving Lumion as a tool, and not spend resources on adding more models to the model library.

I also gather that you would prefer that existing models could be customized more.

However, adding customization options to existing models is mainly a programming task.

For example, we already have vehicles with emissive masks that make the headlights appear to be lit, but we can't add those to Lumion until the developers implement functionality which allows users to control this.

At the last count, I had a list of 7 Model Library bottlenecks that first need to be implemented by the developers as functionality in Lumion before we can add the modified models (the car headlights is one of the 7).

So if you know a way to clone Ferry, Remko and Arthur please let me know :)